What David says to the Last Engineer in Prometheus
According to the man himself, Dr. Anil Biltoo, who worked as the linguist consultant for Prometheus and who also played the linguist teacher (image below), David says to the Engineer “This man is here because he does not want to die. He believes you can give him more life” in translated form.
Dr. Anil Biltoo also reveals there will be more dialogue shown from that scene in the Director’s Cut, and it is not just a one-way conversation between David and the Engineer. Unfortunately, the professor didn’t elaborate further on the the extended dialogue probably due to contractual reasons.
A lot more at the source http://thebioscopist.com/2012/06/20/the-linguistics-of-prometheus-what-david-says-to-the-engineer
im really looking forward to a possible directors cut, all answers will be revealed……but within those answers even more burning questions that were not even touched upon before hand
lolz
Good catch Viscal (Image God)!
I’ve discussed this article with my wife and although she disagrees with me I’m torn on the matter that Dr. Biltoo can translate this language when it is not an actual developed language. My wife, as well as my older brother, are pleased with these news and feel relieved to have unnanswered questions answered however they are a little disappointed that David did not in fact had his own sinister and logical agenda. He has a hunger for knowledge that kid. Differing from my sibling and wife, at least two of my coworkers agree with me on the fact that the movie is what we see and not what the filmmakers say after it. I had to take a break from work the other day because these issues were bothering me so I went for a walk and tried to ignore all civilization around me, as if Inwas in a premordial planet, so I could concentrate and I sat down and found myself thinking very hard about this matter AND I’ve concluded that if the movie itself did not make clear what David said to Cuddles in the last scene then it is meant to be ambiguous and should not require any further, obscure and not widely accessible explanation by people that worked in the movie. The movie should and does stand on itself and for itself. The jesus reference however makes sense because they mentioned “2000″ years and there was a lovely xmas tree aboard for half a second. I should know this because I’ve seen the film 3 times. Going again next week with a colleague who hasn’t seen the film yet and maybe my younger son as well for another time. My friend has not being spoiled by spoilers and does not even know that this is related to alien whatsoever. He’s in for a ride.
Anyway, I’ll ignore these outside explanations and I’ll wait until Paradise which is finally confirmed for 2013. I don’t think I can wait that long though, my wife already had enough of me talking about Promethus for years before it came out. I’m glad they’re reworking those elder engineers as we speak right now, they seemed a bit dungoofed, fraile and naive/innocent/insecure. Sometimes I wish I was my younger son because when he grows up he’ll be able to watch the Profetus trilogy bakc to back.
Dr. Biltoo never translated the language, he created it for the film using Proto-Indo European Linguistics. So he knows exactly what david was saying.
so a fictional robot man from a fictional movie cannot learn a fictional ancient language ? interesting………
and im sorry for missing the news that you have managed to gather but where exactly did you learn that paradise is greenlit for a 2013 release???
Ha Ha Ha! Right!?
For this, Viscal, you’ve earned an engineer’s pressure suit, a flight suit, and your very own Juggernaut – minus bio-weapons of course!
snippets of information like this are akin to getting new tvspots before the release, virals etc etc. ive NEVER watched a movie that still has me wanting so much more of its greatness that ile scour a goddam internet forum for such tiny snippets as this…….WTF????
I preferred the ambiguity. Why do we need everything explained for us? I just don’t understand it.
“I just don’t understand it.”
There is a difference between ambiguity and horseshit.
Sometimes it can be subtle.
Hence the label ambiguous.
But after you recognize that there IS a difference,
and then you learn the tells and methods that give it away,
it becomes much more obvious.
Not that I necessarily recommend it.
Sometimes I’m jealous of the ignorant.
lol wut?
I want some of what RobThom is on… Actually, no I dont… stay off the bath salts pizza face..
The dialogue back and forth between David and the Engineer would definitely be helpful. I’d like to know what the Engineer said to David to help explain why the Engineer ripped David’s head off and then went crazy on everyone else.
Ye I’d actually really lyk that too. The whole thing phelt so choppedd up.
@anonymous. “we” dont “need” everything explained……but its awesome that there is stuff to be shown, its cool that things will be explained lol, but like i said im sure that in true lindloff style even more questions will be born from those answers , peace:)
I don’t even see why it matter what David said. Some 2,000 years ago they had every intent on wiping out the entire human race. We wake them up and expect them to want to have a pleasant conversation with us? I don’t understand that reasoning.
Viscal,
Nice one!
Clearly this movie is going to keep debate running for years..
Ps, can you remove some of the stupid posts that someone recently posted in my earlier name Lambechop?
Now The Real Lambechop!
Lol.
i’m cool knowing the translation. it makes sense, it’s the obvious thing to say, and it doesn’t really send anyone down any rabbit holes before the next movie.
I was satisfied to think that David told the engineer to;
“Come and have a go if he was hard enough”
it’s all so cliche and yet vague as hell. why would these albino human progenitors bother burying all those ships if they were so intent on destroying the life they had seeded? complete bollocks. so much missed opportunity with this film that so quickly generated into a cliche horror flick. i mean really, is a multi-trillion dollar corporation going to put a trillion dollar expedition of history changing possibilities into the hands of a cocky 28 year old scientist and his flaky girlfriend? gimme a freakin break! and I have nothing against Guy Pearce who I highly respect, but come on, all I could see was a guy in bad makeup. and how predictable were those two idiots who got stranded inside the ship? they are supposed to be world class scientists? acting like high school retards? come on. and the same old android programmed with and evil agenda. give me a break. so much waste. visually incredible, but so what.
empty calories is all I can say. vague confusing threads left hanging. sorry, i would love to love this flick, but i am bummed it was basically a dog. Sci-Fi is my favorite genre. Why on earth is it SO HARD to make one with a GOOD SCRIPT for gosh sake? I just don’t get it. all that money into FX, spend a few bucks and work up a tight script and get some actors we can believe.
Sorry Sir Ridley, thumbs down.
Unfortunately, I’d have to agree with you. Someone should have used some quality control on the script. Wasn’t it a contradiction when the Biologist is told they are reading life forms west of his position and then he says I’ll go east, yet when they come upon the hissing cobra looking thing he wants to domesticate it? Then the Geologist that turns into a Zombie? Didn’t like that either. The worst thing they could have done was get the guy from Lost to write this script.
Your correct that the script doesn’t make any sense,
whatsoever.
But your just being silly to keep repeating that “Fifield was a zombie” meme.
01. the ships were not buried they were parked…..in a parking bay….that had opening doors, nobody had to dig anything out so fuck knows how you came to that conclusion
maybe try the hallmark channel for realistic human experiences lol
02. holloway actually comes across as alot less cocky than most americans/canadians that i have met……so is it more unrealistic that he was cocky….or less cocky than ”actual americans”???
how predictibale were the 2 idiots who got stranded…………..yeah because in every scifi ever made the guys who get ”lost” in a deep dark tunnel are such suprise deaths lol .
03. im sorry maybe you could explain what davids evil agenda was ? im pretty sure he has his own agenda
04 . what confusing threads were left hanging, ive seen the movie and there is only 2 questions that the movie does not answer……….. why we were made and why were we abandoned…….anything else is your own ignorance and stupidity
04. i dont remember fifeld eating anybody’s flesh, or any of the people he killed getting up and asking for brains
05. its not a dog its a movie.
06. just because people dont speak how you speak or react how you would react doesnt mean they are fake…….. it means that you cant watch a movie without comparing it to your own personal experiences in life…….not a good way of enjoying sci fi like this……or any kind to be honest
07. thank god you dont have to return to this forum , now you have posted your somewhat dimmwitted review you can go back to watching your awesome scifi collection ( i would LOVE to hear about this love of sci fi you have ) maybe a list of your top ten sci fi pics???
peace
As MacArthur said, “I have returned!”
So…in a word, my reaction is…drivel. Parked, buried, who cares? They were obviously covered for whatever reason that we’re left to speculate and failed to get one off to Earth. No problem. I can speculate all day just like the so-called scientists on this ill-fated little trillion dollar pleasure cruise that was so badly crewed in my opinion. And what is the point of upon waking, this uber albino rubber human going on a rampage supposedly to get the hell out and head straight for Earth…not one intelligible interaction with the albino. Seems a huge missed opportunity, but that’s just me. Some pontificators will probably say because he is as violent as his spawn. Deep that. In any case the juicy meat dangled before us was all tossed aside in favor of blood and guts and one or two recycled jumpscares. Whatever.
As to Shaw, her pregnancy in a barren womb was yet another extremely cliche plot device that we saw coming a mile away. The surgery scene was fun, I give you that. But maybe I’m just jaded or a tad more sophisticated than I was 30 years ago, but I expect more from a acclaimed auteur such as Ridley Scott, who seems stuck in 1979 here. IMHO it smacks of a pathetic thrown together ploy to milk his previous success and create some faux enigmatic koan that will of course be revealed to those dedicated followers in the inevitable sequel. I have a feeling I won’t be there after this escapade.
Holloway was as predictable and boring as your critique of my, hardly worth discussing really. As for the two stranded clowns Rosencrantz and Guildenstern, anyone with a pulse could see that scenario coming a mile away. Every cheap horror flick employs that device, and if you didn’t see it, good for you. I hope you were surpised and delighted!
As for David, maybe you missed the fact that he was working for the antagonist prune Weyland. So his programming was strongly reminiscent of Ash in Alien. Great acting by the way.
“04. what confusing threads were left hanging, ive seen the movie and there is only 2 questions that the movie does not answer……….. why we were made and why were we abandoned…….anything else is your own ignorance and stupidity”
Right, mate, those are just a couple of minor questions there left hanging, only the main premise. It starts out all lofty and Olympian on us, even got my pulse up actually, eagerly anticipating a mind bender, and then Scott rapidly abandons them in pursuit of a been there done that horror rehash. Sorry Jocko, that is just either lazy or unimaginative, either way not good enough to satisfy this viewer.
And who says they abandoned us? Was that really a question in the film?. If evolution is correct, and they seeded the planet from scratch, then it would have happened, oh, give or take 1-2 billion years ago. Hmmm, a lot of evolving can happen to the engineer’s in a billion years. WHy would anyone even think they’re still around, or in the same form? Whatever, that is just some tangential thinking that I would have employed as a writer.
So, like, ad hominem attacks are totally lame dude, so find yourself a better target.
I’ve read a few books and seen a few films in my time so I think I can suspend disbelief as well as the next bloke. However, telegraphed plot points, such as “Father” are complete 5th grade rubbish that I figured Sir Ridley would have been able to steer clear of by light years. However, it appears he has either gone soft, egotistical or lost his edge. The Alien tie-in was the main premise taken away here, not the human origin story which according to everyone I have talked to was the reason they went to see it.
My top ten list of Sci-Fi films would definitely NOT include this steaming pile, even though, I as I say, I wanted very much to like it, but I just couldn’t hold my nose. However it would include its masterful progenitor, Alien, because it was original, and maybe Bladreunner as well. Although you clearly seem offended by my erudite commentary, I can at least give you the benefit of the doubt. To each his own. If you liked this expensive B-grade horror flick, more power to you. I hope you did and felt your $16 was well worth it. As for me, after watching this eye candy, I feel slightly cheated. Obviously so do a lot of others. Cheers!
Woof.
Alien is as original as any of the nightmare on elm st movies, terminator, halloween , physco , the birds…… Its just set in space , the fact that you put that out there explains everything i needed to know about your high oppinion of scifi…. You really did not have to dribble on for as long as you did …
“04 . what confusing threads were left hanging, ive seen the movie and there is only 2 questions that the movie does not answer…anything else is your own ignorance and stupidity”
And the ole, “you just dont get it because your stupid” defense = Priceless.
your right i should not have said it in that way…..im soooo sooooo sorry k
your right that was wrong of me…. sorry internet hero……
Hey Prometheusfire pull your dick out of your mouth!
god i love smart comedy ,
, are dick jokes at the peak of your comedy mountain ? any mum jokes you want to throw in ……. stuff about my sister maybe ?
and on a sidenote…….why are you thinking about me sucking my own dick…..??? i think your in the wrong forum mate…..
even odder that you made a request ……. strange people on this sight…..”shudders”…
oh and Carrot top called……..he wants his jokes back
I just thought it was interesting that in BLADE RUNNER when Eldon Tyrel asked Roy Batty what he could do for him Roy replied, “I want more life…”
“…Fucker!”
Viscal and Co. need to start moderating these comments. Such asinine drivel…
Had a bad day. . . and towards the end of it, I thought “I’d rather be with Shaw”
victorspoils you forgot to mention this movie should have been a spoof of alien like dark helmet going to find water. Thats what happens with age, after a while you just dont want to be so serious anymore….. Cant wait for part deux but I wont like spending any major bucks to see it.
Maybe the conversation went like this:
D8 – “Hi, can you make this old guy live longer?”
SJ – “Who the hell are you? And what makes you think I can do that?”
D8 – “I’m an android. And because you made him, like he made me.”
SJ – “Puny humans making life of their own?!?!?!?!?”